Comments on: Dannii, Danyl and dealing with a PR crisis http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/ Inspiration, lnnovation, Collaboration Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:05:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Julie Hall - Editor http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13195 Julie Hall - Editor Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:40:12 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13195 Hmmm, you're right, could make for an interesting article... Hmmm, you’re right, could make for an interesting article…

]]> By: Eily http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13188 Eily Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:36:33 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13188 @julie That's very interesting indeed, I didn't spot that when I was looking that none of the official TheXFactor tweets appear in the public timeline. Well spotted! I don't mean to sound like I doubt you, I just meant that I immediately when back and looked for TheXFactor saying it, and the first I could see was @squallman1 It's definitely very interesting - it's like repeat of how NOT to use twitter - another case study to add to the Habitat one! @julie

That’s very interesting indeed, I didn’t spot that when I was looking that none of the official TheXFactor tweets appear in the public timeline. Well spotted! I don’t mean to sound like I doubt you, I just meant that I immediately when back and looked for TheXFactor saying it, and the first I could see was @squallman1

It’s definitely very interesting – it’s like repeat of how NOT to use twitter – another case study to add to the Habitat one!

]]> By: Julie Hall - Editor http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13184 Julie Hall - Editor Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:13:02 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13184 Hi Eily... this threw me when I read it as I definitely saw the tweet as did @shoedazzlegirl, @carltonreid and @RadioPaulo as they RT'd it. But you're right, it's not in the public timeline... how could this be? So I put on my detective's hat and discovered that NONE of @thexfactor tweets are in the public timeline (I searched on some of the more recent tweets) - I don't know why this is the case, but it is. As I said before, I REALLY wish that I had done a screenshot of the original, but I didn't, so this will have to do in the meantime Hi Eily… this threw me when I read it as I definitely saw the tweet as did @shoedazzlegirl, @carltonreid and @RadioPaulo as they RT’d it. But you’re right, it’s not in the public timeline… how could this be? So I put on my detective’s hat and discovered that NONE of @thexfactor tweets are in the public timeline (I searched on some of the more recent tweets) – I don’t know why this is the case, but it is. As I said before, I REALLY wish that I had done a screenshot of the original, but I didn’t, so this will have to do in the meantime

]]> By: eily http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13171 eily Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:30:50 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13171 @julie Now, as far as I'm aware, if you delete a tweet, it is no longer viewable by your followers (providing they didn't see it before you deleted it) but it still remains in the public timeline. So, for example, if XFactor deleted their tweet, it would no longer show when you visited their twitter page www.twitter.com/TheXFactor but if you searched for @TheXFactor it would appear in the public timeline. Test it out - post a tweet, then delete it, and then view the public timeline by searching your own twitter name, and it still appears? Unless Twitter have fixed this. I seem to recall awhile ago, a twitter account http://twitter.com/astronautics (it has now changed names) abusing followers, and then deleting tweets, but they still appeared in the public timeline. The public timeline only goes back about 8 days though... @julie

Now, as far as I’m aware, if you delete a tweet, it is no longer viewable by your followers (providing they didn’t see it before you deleted it) but it still remains in the public timeline.

So, for example, if XFactor deleted their tweet, it would no longer show when you visited their twitter page http://www.twitter.com/TheXFactor but if you searched for @TheXFactor it would appear in the public timeline.

Test it out – post a tweet, then delete it, and then view the public timeline by searching your own twitter name, and it still appears? Unless Twitter have fixed this.

I seem to recall awhile ago, a twitter account http://twitter.com/astronautics (it has now changed names) abusing followers, and then deleting tweets, but they still appeared in the public timeline.

The public timeline only goes back about 8 days though…

]]> By: Julie Hall - Editor http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13158 Julie Hall - Editor Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:54:31 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13158 Thanks for your comments Pete... I did think they might be playing nasty games, but I think last night proved that wrong and it was nice to see Simon supporting Dannii rather than leaving her to take it all on herself. Thanks for your comments Pete… I did think they might be playing nasty games, but I think last night proved that wrong and it was nice to see Simon supporting Dannii rather than leaving her to take it all on herself.

]]> By: Julie Hall - Editor http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13157 Julie Hall - Editor Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:52:14 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13157 Hi Eily... they did delete it (not surprisingly) and frustratingly I didn't take a screen shot when I saw it. I remembered the wowowowowowowow, so found the RT's that way... but clearly couldn't show the original as it is no longer in the timeline Hi Eily… they did delete it (not surprisingly) and frustratingly I didn’t take a screen shot when I saw it. I remembered the wowowowowowowow, so found the RT’s that way… but clearly couldn’t show the original as it is no longer in the timeline

]]> By: eily http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13132 eily Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:31:31 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13132 Now, unless xfactor have deleted that tweet, I can't see them saying that anywhere? To me, it looks as though @squallman1 was the first person to say it, and the RT included @TheXFactor because they wanted XFactor to see what they were saying? Perhaps I'm wrong? But I can't see it even in the timeline. Now, unless xfactor have deleted that tweet, I can’t see them saying that anywhere?

To me, it looks as though @squallman1 was the first person to say it, and the RT included @TheXFactor because they wanted XFactor to see what they were saying?

Perhaps I’m wrong? But I can’t see it even in the timeline.

]]> By: Pete Shannon http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13112 Pete Shannon Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:22:00 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13112 Hi Julie, Great tips here for anyone who finds themselves in a sticky situation that's being compounded and accelerated on SM. Open up, inform and engage. Just a thought though- perhaps there's something a little deeper here? Could this be a very considered and calculated bit of scandal-based publicity? After all, the race debate surrounding the language used by Strictly Come Dancing's Anton Du Beke hasn't done their ratings any harm. This would possibly explain the reticence of @TheXFactor to extinguish the flames. What do you think? Also, is your blog pre-moderated? Having difficulty commenting. All the best, @peteshannon Social Media KISS at http://www.peteshannon.com Hi Julie,

Great tips here for anyone who finds themselves in a sticky situation that’s being compounded and accelerated on SM. Open up, inform and engage.

Just a thought though- perhaps there’s something a little deeper here? Could this be a very considered and calculated bit of scandal-based publicity? After all, the race debate surrounding the language used by Strictly Come Dancing’s Anton Du Beke hasn’t done their ratings any harm.

This would possibly explain the reticence of @TheXFactor to extinguish the flames. What do you think?

Also, is your blog pre-moderated? Having difficulty commenting.

All the best,

@peteshannon

Social Media KISS at http://www.peteshannon.com

]]> By: Lesley http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/dannii-danyl-and-dealing-with-a-pr-crisis/#comment-13110 Lesley Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:43:53 +0000 http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/?p=3609#comment-13110 Instead of justifying her comments Dannii needs to defuse the bomb, the only way to do that is to show people your human side. She needs to come out and say what a dumbass she feels, how she meant no harm and hopes she's not caused any upset, and that she didn't meant to offend anyone. Also, the facts needs clearing up - the problem is that most people had not read these trashy newspaper stories. Even if they are true people think she just outed him on national TV. Dannii get a grip of this quick or the public will hate you, they're fickle, and they're already beginning to. Front this yourself, not your PR team. Instead of justifying her comments Dannii needs to defuse the bomb, the only way to do that is to show people your human side. She needs to come out and say what a dumbass she feels, how she meant no harm and hopes she’s not caused any upset, and that she didn’t meant to offend anyone. Also, the facts needs clearing up – the problem is that most people had not read these trashy newspaper stories. Even if they are true people think she just outed him on national TV. Dannii get a grip of this quick or the public will hate you, they’re fickle, and they’re already beginning to. Front this yourself, not your PR team.

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